As a young boy I sat with my grandmother, Ada, awaiting the arrival of her brother-in-law, wife, and children. The contents of the walk-in pantry were theirs. This was not recorded in ink in any deed housed in the British Arcives, but, nevertheless, was fact, immutably so, as anything to the contrary would have been unthinkable to Ada; a rejection of the social norms she adhered to. So it is with this example of genealogy. It can not be proven in any politically correct way who William Jones, mariner, of Limehouse was the descendant of, but by the social norms of his time, relative to the patronage of naval commands within kinship groups, he was as certainly a descendant of John ap Thomas, of Abermarlais, as Ada was linked to her kin. The kinship group was central to survival; it was held together by social etiquette; and not to understand this is to not understand what it was to be human at this time. The truly known is called unknown by the ignorant.

1. Rhys ap Griffith, m. Katherine Howard, dau. of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk, and Elizabeth Tilney. He was descended in the female line from Thomas, 1st Earl of Norfolk, the sixth son of King Edward I.
1.1. Griffith ap Rhys, m. Eleonor, dau. of Sir Thomas Jones.*
1.1.1. Sir Walter Rhys, m. Elizabeth, dau. of Sir Edward Mansell, son of Vice-Admiral. Sir Rhys Mansell (thus br. Sir Thomas Mansell), and father of Vice-Admiral Sir Robert Mansell.
1.1.1.1. Jane Mansell, m. John Fludd Esq., of Llanfair, Cardigan.
1.1.2. Mary Rhys, m. Walter Vaughan, Esq., of Grove.

1. John ap Thomas, of Abermarlais, m. 1. Eleanor Vaughan, dau. Thomas Vaughan, and Eleanor Whitney.
1.1. *Sir Thomas Jones.
1.1.1. Eleonor Jones, m. Griffith ap Rhys.
1.1.2. Catrin Jones, m. William, son of William Bassett and Catrin verch William Fleming; see as follows for the Mansell connection.

1. John ap Thomas, of Abermarlais, m. 2. Joan Basset, dau. of Thomas Basset, of Llantriddyd, and Annes verch Jenkin. Joan Basset was the br. of John Basset, M.P., of Llantrythid, who m. Elizabeth Norton, dau. of Andrew Norton, of Bristol. and Ann Herbert, dau. of John Herbert, of Monmouth and … verch Thomas, and relict of Dafydd ap Thomas Mathew.  John Herbert being the son of William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke and … Boys. John Basset and Elizabeth Norton had issue, Elizabeth Bassett, wife of Anthony Mansell, MP, son of Vice-Admiral Sir Rhys Mansell.
Thomas Basset was the br. of William Basset, who m. Catrin verch William Fleming; their son, William, m. (1) Catrin verch Sir Rhys Mansell; (2) Catrin verch Sir Thomas Jones.
1.1. John ap John, m. (by common but unestablished account, Catrin Spencer).
1.1.1. Robert Jones, m. Judith Pyke.

1. John Pyke, m. Isabel, a sister of Nicholas Jenyns. Jenyns v Pyke. Plaintiffs: Margaret, executrix and late the wife of Nicholas Jenyns, citizen and skinner of London, and afterwards married to Edmund Howard, knight, father of Queen Katherine. Edmund was the third son of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk, and his first wife, Elizabeth Tilney. His sister, Elizabeth, was the mother of Henry VIII’s second wife, Anne Boleyn, and he was the father of the king’s fifth wife, Catherine Howard. His first cousin, Margery Wentworth, was the mother of Henry’s third wife, Jane Seymour.
1.1. Joan Pyke, m. 1. Ralph Worsley. Howarde v Worsley. Plaintiffs: Edmund Howard, knight, and Margaret, his wife, an executrix and late the wife of Nicholas Jenyns of London, skinner.
1.2. Thomas Pyke, “citizen and skinner”. Pyke v Jenyns. Plaintiffs: John Pyke and Thomas, his son. Defendants: Bernard Jenyns, citizen and skinner of London. Subject: Refusal to testify to a promise of certain goods by Nicholas Jenyns, alderman of London, deceased. London1533-1538. (C 1/870/35).
1.2.1. Judith Pyke, m. Robert Jones.
1.2.1.1. William Jones. He was described as a “mariner” in his Will of 1611, a general term of the time that ecompassed a wide range of social class. In the case of William Jones, he was of a upper echelon, being a merchant and ship builder, and a church warden and vestryman of Limehouse, Stepney.
1.2.1.1.1. John Jones, rector of St. Nicholas Acons, whose wife bequeathed to her son the silver cup taken by his grandfather at the siege of Cadiz.

William Jones was captain of the English Navy ship the Crane in 1602, succeeding Thomas Mansell, a part of the fleet which attacked Cadiz in 1596, under Rhys Nansell, uncle of Thomas.

1. Jenkin Basset, of Bewpre, m. Janet verch Morgan (dau. of Morgan ap Jenkin, Lord of Langstone, and Elizabeth Vaughan, dau. of Sir Roger Vaughan of Bedwardine and Gwladus verch Dafydd Gam; sister of Sir Thomas Morgan, who m. Jane Herbert, dau. of John Herbert, of Itton, having issue: William Morgan, of Pen Coed, who m. Florence Brydges (dau. of Sir Giles Brydges*); having issue: Sir Thomas Morgan (m. Cecily, dau. of Sir George Herbert); Giles Morgan, M.P., of Pen-Coed, Llanfarthin, Monmouthshire; Ann Morgan, wife of Sir Edward Lewis, Sheriff of Glamorgan.
1.1. James Basset, of Beaupre, m. Caterin Mathew, dau of Rimon Mathew, of Llandaff.
1.2. Thomas Basset, of Llantriddyd.
1.3. William Basset.
1.4. Eleanor Bassett, m. Sir Rhys Mansel, of Beaupre and Margam, who m. 2. (1520) Anne Bridges, dau of *Sir Giles Bridges, of Coberly, by whom:
(1) Caterin Mansel (d. 1593), who m. William Bassett of Beaupre, d. 1586.
(2) Sir Edward Mansel of Margam, d. 1595.

Simple stuff. Some Welsh became English.

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